Pezholio

05 Oct, 2009

One step forward, two steps back – Ernest Marples and the idiocy of the Royal Mail

Posted by: Pez In: Open Data| Web Development

Royal FailWell, it happened. today, the Royal Mail have issued ernestmarples.com with a takedown notice, demanding that the service be taken down immediately under pain of legal action.

For those of you who don’t know, Ernest Marples was / is a system that provided not-for-profit sites (such as HealthWhere, JobcentreProPlus.com, Planning Alerts and, by extension Twitterplan) with latitude and longitude data from postcodes, which means that people can get information about their areas with only their postcode.

Because Ernest Marples has been served with this notice, none of these sites can function, meaning the Royal Mail (who are *supposed* to be a public service) are directly responsible for taking away a wealth of useful tools from the public it’s *supposed* to serve.

Judging by the flurry of outcry on Twitter, the Royal Mail are not a popular bunch because of this decision, and have really shot themselves in the foot PR wise.

Instead of getting heavy-handed with the lawyers, why didn’t they enter with a dialogue with Harry and Richard (the people behind the site) and try and come up with an alternative license for volunteer-built, community focused sites of this nature?

I can sort of understand them wanting to protect their revenue stream (although it’s arguable that this data should be in the public domain anyway), but because these sites are built by volunteers and make no money, they aren’t going to have the funding to fork out the £4k per year to have access to the official postcode database – so the Royal Mail aren’t losing out on any extra cash anyway. All they’ve done is picked up their ball and gone off in a strop, meaning no one can play anymore.

I’m hoping that something can be worked out, because it’d be a crying shame if this service (or something similar) didn’t get going again.

Update: I’ve submitted a petition to Number 10 about this, not sure how much good it’ll do, but it’s worth a try! Please sign, retweet, pass around by any means you can!

4 Responses to "One step forward, two steps back – Ernest Marples and the idiocy of the Royal Mail"

1 | cyberdoyle

October 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

Avatar

well said mate.

2 | Andrew Beeken

October 5th, 2009 at 9:40 pm

Avatar

As always, much better articulated than my effort – you also get bonus points for a better graphic! :D However, the point of my post still stands in that this is an example of the bad side of relying on third party, cloud based apps for service delivery – when they go belly up, you may not be losing out on a paid for service, but you are left picking up the pieces. That said, I still think they are the future – they just need stronger foundations and support from big backers (in this case the Royal Mail) to succeed – that and the big corporations need to buck up their ideas and change their perspective on data…

3 | Pezholio » Blog Archive » Royal Mail calls striking workers ‘whiny’. Sort of

October 10th, 2009 at 11:05 am

Avatar

[...] I’m sure you’re fed up of me banging on about the Royal Mail, but bare with me, this isn’t about [...]

4 | Pezholio » Blog Archive » Cautious optimism o’clock – Ordnance Survey opening up data

November 17th, 2009 at 6:51 pm

Avatar

[...] folk devil de jour is the Royal Mail, who are the copyright holders of postcode data, and recently shut down ErnestMarples.com – provider of postcode data to many useful non-profit sites. Now, if the Royal Mail have exclusive rights to postcode data, where do OS come [...]

Comment Form

Twitter / @pezholio



Desperate monetisation attempt…