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	<title>Comments on: Lancashire County Council and the Google-isation of government</title>
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		<title>By: tom stpehn</title>
		<link>http://www.pezholio.co.uk/2009/08/lancashire-county-council-and-the-google-isation-of-government/comment-page-1/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>tom stpehn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have only tested the lancashire CC one so far, but the searches I put in worked right away, I was very impressed. 

It is good to know Lancashire is one of the councils thinking out of the box, and catering for its users. Things (as we say here in Lancs) Can Only Get Better.

You have to admire people or councils that make a start and work towards digital engagement and enabling users to access the info they require in an efficient way.
Power to the People.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only tested the lancashire CC one so far, but the searches I put in worked right away, I was very impressed. </p>
<p>It is good to know Lancashire is one of the councils thinking out of the box, and catering for its users. Things (as we say here in Lancs) Can Only Get Better.</p>
<p>You have to admire people or councils that make a start and work towards digital engagement and enabling users to access the info they require in an efficient way.<br />
Power to the People.</p>
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		<title>By: John Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.pezholio.co.uk/2009/08/lancashire-county-council-and-the-google-isation-of-government/comment-page-1/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>John Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a programme of user testing in place prior to the new-look site going live.  To what extent that programme reached I do not know, but certainly some degree of examination was carried out that I do know.

For myself I think Lancashire&#039;s implementation works better than Westminster&#039;s, though I agree the search box needs to be more dominant.  Two strengths for me are the prominent switch to Classic view (which is not obvious on Westminster&#039;s site) and the strong single-image design of the site&#039;s homepage to support council campaigns.  Provided they can maintain the freshness of the design by further campaign images, I think it&#039;s a potential winner.

But as ever, its all very well having a Google style homepage. If you don&#039;t get the fundamentals behind it right then its all rather academic.  Reliance on the search means that users must be able to find what they&#039;re looking for first time (or second at a push).  

When I tried out Lancashire&#039;s site I gave up on the new model pretty quickly, switching to Classic view for an altogether better user experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a programme of user testing in place prior to the new-look site going live.  To what extent that programme reached I do not know, but certainly some degree of examination was carried out that I do know.</p>
<p>For myself I think Lancashire&#8217;s implementation works better than Westminster&#8217;s, though I agree the search box needs to be more dominant.  Two strengths for me are the prominent switch to Classic view (which is not obvious on Westminster&#8217;s site) and the strong single-image design of the site&#8217;s homepage to support council campaigns.  Provided they can maintain the freshness of the design by further campaign images, I think it&#8217;s a potential winner.</p>
<p>But as ever, its all very well having a Google style homepage. If you don&#8217;t get the fundamentals behind it right then its all rather academic.  Reliance on the search means that users must be able to find what they&#8217;re looking for first time (or second at a push).  </p>
<p>When I tried out Lancashire&#8217;s site I gave up on the new model pretty quickly, switching to Classic view for an altogether better user experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Dodd</title>
		<link>http://www.pezholio.co.uk/2009/08/lancashire-county-council-and-the-google-isation-of-government/comment-page-1/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Dodd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems interesting that the underlying theme here is about whether things are tested with users.  If you need to convince anyone about testing then I would look at Jakob Neilsen&#039;s findings: &quot;http://www.useit.com/alertbox/guesses-data.html&quot; and &quot;http://www.useit.com/alertbox/designer-user-differences.html&quot;.

In Leicestershire, we have always struggled to get contributors to our website to test with users and we know we have to make improvements, but what we have implemented is (in effect) ongoing live testing with all our users through the use of the SOCITM survey and &quot;comment / rate this page&quot;.  All the comments coming in form this are checked monthly and we then note any changes made because of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems interesting that the underlying theme here is about whether things are tested with users.  If you need to convince anyone about testing then I would look at Jakob Neilsen&#8217;s findings: &#8220;http://www.useit.com/alertbox/guesses-data.html&#8221; and &#8220;http://www.useit.com/alertbox/designer-user-differences.html&#8221;.</p>
<p>In Leicestershire, we have always struggled to get contributors to our website to test with users and we know we have to make improvements, but what we have implemented is (in effect) ongoing live testing with all our users through the use of the SOCITM survey and &#8220;comment / rate this page&#8221;.  All the comments coming in form this are checked monthly and we then note any changes made because of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Pez</title>
		<link>http://www.pezholio.co.uk/2009/08/lancashire-county-council-and-the-google-isation-of-government/comment-page-1/#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>Pez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I visit my council&#039;s (North Warks) site a lot to get info, but I don&#039;t know whether that&#039;s because I&#039;m a local government webbie or because that&#039;s the done thing. The web url is on all the street signs round my way, which may point people that way as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visit my council&#8217;s (North Warks) site a lot to get info, but I don&#8217;t know whether that&#8217;s because I&#8217;m a local government webbie or because that&#8217;s the done thing. The web url is on all the street signs round my way, which may point people that way as well.</p>
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		<title>By: paul canning</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul canning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@simon UR right of course. Most people don&#039;t visit the sites. It&#039;s relevant to those like Westminster trying to promote (like through maps in the redesign) something I wouldn&#039;t otherwise be aware of. Unless my attention is drawn to it, through marketing the site, why am I going to visit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@simon UR right of course. Most people don&#8217;t visit the sites. It&#8217;s relevant to those like Westminster trying to promote (like through maps in the redesign) something I wouldn&#8217;t otherwise be aware of. Unless my attention is drawn to it, through marketing the site, why am I going to visit?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul - post deployment evaluation - is it successful, is it helpful, does it meet users&#039; expectations, do they find what they need or want, are they looking for what you expected, etc.?  

Like you I&#039;d hope that they&#039;ve done user-testing through development, it&#039;s certainly a big step to take without having actually talked to real people during development…

I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve ever visited my council&#039;s website - what would you actually want to do there?  Serious question?

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul &#8211; post deployment evaluation &#8211; is it successful, is it helpful, does it meet users&#8217; expectations, do they find what they need or want, are they looking for what you expected, etc.?  </p>
<p>Like you I&#8217;d hope that they&#8217;ve done user-testing through development, it&#8217;s certainly a big step to take without having actually talked to real people during development…</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve ever visited my council&#8217;s website &#8211; what would you actually want to do there?  Serious question?</p>
<p>Simon</p>
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		<title>By: Pez</title>
		<link>http://www.pezholio.co.uk/2009/08/lancashire-county-council-and-the-google-isation-of-government/comment-page-1/#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>Pez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul - I think in a perfect world I&#039;d love to close down all navigation and just have search. Council websites are labyrinthine by their very nature and this can make people who don&#039;t use search think that the site is &#039;rubbish&#039; and &#039;complicated&#039;. 

I guess this is just me being lazy and, rather than shutting down navigation, we should concentrate on making it better. How to do that though is the big question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul &#8211; I think in a perfect world I&#8217;d love to close down all navigation and just have search. Council websites are labyrinthine by their very nature and this can make people who don&#8217;t use search think that the site is &#8216;rubbish&#8217; and &#8216;complicated&#8217;. </p>
<p>I guess this is just me being lazy and, rather than shutting down navigation, we should concentrate on making it better. How to do that though is the big question.</p>
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		<title>By: paul canning</title>
		<link>http://www.pezholio.co.uk/2009/08/lancashire-county-council-and-the-google-isation-of-government/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>paul canning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Simon post-design evaluation? surely find the rpoblems rather than create more?

@Pez exactly on &#039;less-experienced users&#039;. IME designers often think people have - or worse *should  have - the same webskills as them. met far too many who ooze arrogance.

@martin I find it all too easy to believe, and, worse, that it wasn&#039;t done as part of an iterative process, i.e. properly

There&#039;s another issue which is what is their specific homepage use. Most traffic would come from Google search and referrers so is it designed for homepage users? that segment?

@cyberdoyle if search has been properly tweaked and optimised as your searches might suggest then it could work, *but I&#039;m still to be convinced that closing down navigation and forcing a shift to search works for all the audience. I haven&#039;t seen any evidence of that yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Simon post-design evaluation? surely find the rpoblems rather than create more?</p>
<p>@Pez exactly on &#8216;less-experienced users&#8217;. IME designers often think people have &#8211; or worse *should  have &#8211; the same webskills as them. met far too many who ooze arrogance.</p>
<p>@martin I find it all too easy to believe, and, worse, that it wasn&#8217;t done as part of an iterative process, i.e. properly</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another issue which is what is their specific homepage use. Most traffic would come from Google search and referrers so is it designed for homepage users? that segment?</p>
<p>@cyberdoyle if search has been properly tweaked and optimised as your searches might suggest then it could work, *but I&#8217;m still to be convinced that closing down navigation and forcing a shift to search works for all the audience. I haven&#8217;t seen any evidence of that yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Lay &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Search-centric vs the signpost</title>
		<link>http://www.pezholio.co.uk/2009/08/lancashire-county-council-and-the-google-isation-of-government/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Lay &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Search-centric vs the signpost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stuart Harrison &#8211; The Google-isation of local government [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.pezholio.co.uk/2009/08/lancashire-county-council-and-the-google-isation-of-government/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a bold and interesting decision that I&#039;m sure others will be watching intently. I hope they do some evaluation and share the results…

Simon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a bold and interesting decision that I&#8217;m sure others will be watching intently. I hope they do some evaluation and share the results…</p>
<p>Simon</p>
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